CricBay Regular Season 2018 Communications document

Topic: Communication Document

Dear CricBay Teams, Please find the communication document for the Regular Season 2018 below. For any questions, contact CoLA via a ticket on the website.

Key Dates

Tournament Start Date 03/10/2018
Buffer Weekends TBD
PlayOffs After Round Robin Completion (06/30/2018)
Quarterfinals Date Weekend of 07/07/2018 (For P, G and S)
SemiFinals Date Weekend of 07/14/2018
Tournament Finale Date Saturday 07/21/2018

Overall Schedule/Logistics

  • # of Weekends Round Robin = 15 weeks for P,G,S and 16 weeks for Bronze division without buffer weekend(s)
  • # of Weekends playoffs (and ranking games) = 2 for P,G,S and 1 for Bronze
  • Total # of teams = 116 teams
  • Number of Divisions = 4 (Platinum, Gold, Silver and Bronze)
  • Number of groups in each division = 2 (A, B) in P, G, S and 4 (A,B,C,D) in Bronze.

OFF weekends

  • Memorial Day -  Weekend of May 27th, 2018

Format and Other Details

  • Please check the final divisions and groups for RS 2018 below. The teams have been placed in divisions based on the final ranking after FO 2017 and incorporating the promotion and relegation, and are placed in zigzag order to form 2 groups for P,G,S groups and 4 groups for Bronze division. 
  • At the end of the season, based on points and DRR,
    • Bottom 8 teams will be relegated to the immediate lower division (platinum to gold, gold to silver and silver to bronze)
    • Top 8 teams from lower divisions will be promoted to immediate higher division (bronze to silver, silver to gold and gold to platinum).
    • Please refer to Relegation and Promotion Section for more details.
  • Maximum number of games per team (including Quarterfinals, Semifinals, Finals or ranking games) will be 15 to 16 games.
  • This tournament will be a regular 20 Overs format. 
  • Umpiring - All games will have 2 umpires
  • Once the Round Robin games (RR) are completed, CoLA will evaluate (and will have the sole discretion to decide) if there is any need for buffer weekends.
  • If we do have an official Buffer Weekend then umpiring is mandatory on that weekend.
  • Every player in the playing eleven MUST be registered and sign the “insurance waiver” agreement online at CricBay website. If a person has not signed the waiver form, he will not be allowed to participate in any CricBay scheduled games.
  • Please refer to the rulebook for details about what to do when we have disrupted games
  • All teams will end up sending at least one umpire for the Quarters and Semi-Finals weekend.  Semi-Finals will be umpired by teams that lost the Quarters and Finals may be umpired by the losing team from Semi Finals or by teams that will be picked by CoLA based on umpiring stats or past final appearances. Some assignments might be picked based on abandoned games and if not, randomly.

Rankings and Grouping

CricBay Regular Season 2018 ranking are based on the final ranking of 2017 Fall Open followed by relegation and promotion. New teams registered for the season will be at the bottom, ranked in the order they registered (paid the registration fee). Teams are grouped in a zigzag manner based on their rank, which is the standard way of placing teams in groups.

PLATINUM   GOLD   SILVER
Rebels Chennai   Fremont Steelers Renegades   AllSTARS Syndicate
Hattrickers Spartans   Nemesis Chargers   Yuva Invaders
Daredevils Jaathre Boys   Youngistan Stanford   Googlys TopGuns
Raging Bulls Beats XI   Stars RCB   Revengers Viptela
Immortals i11   Shockers Eagles   Yorkers Raiders
Talons Centurions   Panthers Seals   Hawks Santa Clara United
Mavericks Warriors CC   Devils Snipers   California Kings Rockers
Challengers CC Absolute XI   Dynamites SoupBoyz   Gladiators Pinch Hitters
Synergy CC Extreme   Dazzlers Weekend Cricket Warriors   Sharks Warlords
Fighting Broncos Champs   Weekenders Cupertino Champions   Singhams SCC Tornadoes
Berkeley Machis Crusaders   Falcons DesiBoyz   Strikers iPlay
007 Super Chargers   Dark Knights(Angels) Thunderbolt Tigers   Fire Falcons CC Ludicrous
Avengers Daakus   Terminators Phoenix   Lords XI Hotshots
United Seamers   Aryans CC Kuchh Bhi   Friends Super Heroes
BRONZE
Indian Champs Thunders iCricketers PlayPals
Intrepids Blasters 11 Fremontiers East Indies
Vikings Elite Cali Lions Outlaws
Rogues Stunners CSK Alpha Lions
Valley Thunders Fremont Fireworks CC Feniks Legends
Stags Kingfishers BlackCaps Sunnyvale Misfits
Batmen MCC The Wild Bunch Rising Stars
Beamers Wolf Pack Nighthawks BraveHearts

Round Robin (RR) - Platinum, Gold and Silver

  • 28 teams in each division will be divided into 2 groups, 14 teams in each group.
  • Each team will play 13 matches within their group and will be assigned 3 weeks of umpiring which includes first week of umpiring and game on same weekend, the round robin phase will end in 15 weeks.

Playoffs - Quarterfinals/SemiFinals/Ranking games - Platinum, Gold and Silver

  • Quarter-Final Weekend:
    • Top 4 teams from each group (a total of 8 teams) will qualify for the quarterfinals. The quarter-finalists will play each other using the model where  A1 plays B4, A2 plays B3, A3 plays B2 and A4 plays B1.
    • Remaining 20 teams will be re-ranked based on points and DRR (from the 13 games) to play ranking game as 1-20, 2-19, 3-18 and so on. 
  • Semi-Final Weekend:
    • Winners of the quarter-finals will play the semi-finals using the following bracket - 
      • winner of the A1-B4 game plays the winner of the B2-A3 game
      • winner of the B1-A4 game plays the winner of the A2-B3 game
    • Losing quarter-finalists will be re-ranked 1 through 4 based on points and DRR including the quarter-final (14 games). The remaining 20 teams will be re-ranked 5-24 based on points and DRR from all games (including ranking game 1 aka 14 games). The 24 teams will play ranking games as 1-24, 2-23, 3-22 and so on. 
  • Every team will play and send one umpire for the QF and SF weekends.

Round Robin (RR) - Bronze

  • The 32 teams in Bronze division will be divided into 4 groups of 8 teams each.
  • Each team will play 7 matches within their group and will umpire on one weekend. 
  • After 8 weeks and 7 games, all Bronze division teams will be re-ranked based on the points and DRR of 7 matches. Newly ranked teams will be divided into 4 groups, 8 teams in each group placed in zigzag order..
    • In case of a tie, team with more wins will be placed higher.
    • If number of wins are same, then team with higher rank at the start of the tournament will be placed higher.
  • Points and DRR from first 7 games will be retained.
  • All teams will play 7 matches within newly formed group and will umpire for one weekend. 
  • Their round robin will end in 16 weeks with 14 matches and 2 weeks of umpiring.

Playoff - SemiFinals/Ranking games - Bronze

  • There will not be any quarter-final phase for the Bronze division.
  • Semi-Final Weekend:
    • Top teams of newly formed group (position 1) after RR (14 games), will be selected for semifinal. 
    • They will play semifinal as A1 vs D1 and B1 vs C1.
    • Remaining 28 teams will be re-ranked on the basis of points and DRR of all 14 matches and will play ranking game as 1-28, 2-27 and so on.
    • Every team will play and send one umpire for SF weekends.

Promotion and Relegation

  • At the end of the tournament, Semi Finalist will stay in top 4 and remaining 24 teams (28 in case of Bronze) will be ranked based on Points and DRR from the ENTIRE season.
    • Final’s winner will be placed as rank 1 and runner up as rank 2 in respective division.  
    • Semi- final losing teams will be placed as 3 and 4 according to points and DRR of entire season (15 games).
  • The four semi finalists and next 4 teams after the final ranking (points and DRR of the entire tournament) of the Gold, Silver and Bronze divisions will be promoted to the next higher division.
    • In case of tie in points and DRR, higher ranked team at the start of the tournament will be promoted.
  • The bottom 8 teams (after the final ranking) of the Platinum, Gold and Silver divisions will be relegated to lower division.
    • In case of tie in points and DRR, lower ranked team at the start of the tournament will be relegated to lower division.

Trophies and Awards

  • PoM awards for Semi-Finals and Finals of all divisions.
  • Top Batsman, Bowler, Wicket Keeper and Fielder awards (Only one top player in every category) for EACH DIVISION.
    • All awards will be selected based on stats from 14 games. 13 RR and QF/ranking for P,G,S group and 14 RR games for Bronze group.
  • 2 MVP awards. One across Platinum and Gold and one across Silver and Bronze.
    • MVP will be selected based on stats from 14 games- 13 RR and QF/ranking for P,G,S group and 14 RR games for Bronze group.
  • All stars will also be selected based on stats from 14 games. 13 RR and QF/ranking for P,G,S group and 14 RR games for Bronze group.
  • Champions and Runners up trophies for all divisions separately (P/G/S/B)
  • 16 medals each for winners of the finals in every division.
  • Career Milestone awards for individuals (if any)

Considering the amount of effort volunteers put into collating award lists, getting them reviewed, ordering them, getting them delivered, bringing them to the finals event and then taking them back to the storage (and then going there again after a few people want them), In future

  1. We will only order tournament specific awards. We might reduce the number of those as well.
  2. All Star awards are already being given to All Star players who commit to playing the ASG. All the selected All Stars (those who played and those who could not) will get the badge displayed on their Profile Page.
  3. All other awards will have to be nominated. As in, Team/Players files a ticket (two weeks before the finals at the very least), commit to coming to finals and picking it up. Only then, we will order the awards. This saves volunteers a lot of time, and effort and also saves us the storage space.

Forfeits and Umpire No show Rules

  •  Game will be forfeited by the team who does not manage to bring the stumps before the scheduled start time of the match. Using cone or any other object as stumps is not allowed
  • To discourage forfeits and Umpiring no show during the tournaments the following rules are applicable:
    • The team that forfeits is liable for the entire ground payment. 
    • -1 DRR will be applied while calculating the final ranking after the end of the round or the tournament.
    • -0.5 DRR to carry forward to the next tournament.
    • If a team forfeits more than once or if there are more than one umpire no shows in a tournament, additional penalties might apply as decided by CoRA. The team will also be not guaranteed a spot in the league in the following season.

Withdrawal by a team

Starting 2018, here are the rules for teams bailing out.

  1. Team withdraws before start of tournament - If they opt to come back next season, they will start in Bronze
  2. Team withdraws after schedule is out without playing a game -  We will lock the team, levy a penalty fee depending on # games (ex - 14*40 = $560)- Once penalties are paid, team will be unlocked & players are free to transfer to other team during same tournament- Next season, they will start in Bronze
  3. Team withdraws after playing (2,3 or n) number of games - We will lock the team, collect full ground fees for remaining games. They are required to fill any remaining umpiring assignments.- Once penalties are paid, players are free to transfer to other team if they have played only one game (same rules for transfer)- Next season, they will start in Bronze.

Abandoned Games

  • A game is considered Abandoned only when it is deemed impractical to complete the game, in spite of the best efforts by all involved to complete the game, due to unforeseen circumstances or weather . Please refer to CricBay Handbook for further clarification.
  • For all interrupted games,  Duckworth-Lewis Method will be used to get the result for the game. DLS kicks in after 5 overs of team batting second. 
  • For ABANDONED weekends (due to rains), CoLA may designate some weekends, on an ad-hoc basis, as buffer weekends. CoLA reserves the right to change the dates, the grounds, the umpiring assignments and the overall timeline of the tournament. CoLA’s decisions are binding on the playing and the umpiring teams. CoLA will be very fair and reasonable to all teams while making these adjustments.
  • If for some reason, CoLA just cannot reschedule a game due to a variety of considerations, (including the unreasonable extension of tournament end date) both teams get 2 points each and 0 DRR
  • Teams may choose to play their "abandoned" games on the "Off" weekends  listed above (or any other weekend) , but it has to be mutually agreed upon by both playing teams. CoLA needs to be notified by raising a ticket of such a reschedule and the game result immediately following the game. While CoLA requests the umpiring teams to umpire the game, it is not mandatory for the umpiring teams to umpire on an off weekend unless the game was scheduled by CoLA. In this case the two playing teams need to proceed with the game without neutral umpires.

Contact CricBay Volunteers

CoLA Volunteers

  • For all Schedule & Ground related issues by filing a ticket for CoLA.
  • You can find the contact information for CoLA volunteers here
  • Note: All CricBay rule related questions to be directed to CoRA volunteers, not CoLA. and Call Volunteers only during game days.. File tickets all other times.

CoRA Volunteers

  • For all Rule Related issues, file a ticket for CoRA..
  • On game days, if you need to contact the volunteers, you can find contact information for CoRA volunteers here
  • Note: If any of the CoRA volunteers involved in the game in question, they should be excused from making any rule related decisions on the field.

Change Log

Santosh Mundhe [Cupertino Champions]

Posted on:4 March 2018

Comments (#21)

Just a suggestion

can we have one weekend break before the season starts. Teams playing theough the finals have not had a break and would love to have a weekend off to spend time with famil.

Karan (sjsu) Shah [Immortals] on 3/3/2018 11:36:06 PM

wow....exactly even no of teams in each group 

Bala P [Talons] on 3/3/2018 11:58:22 PM

CoLa,

Two questions:

1> For games that are tied - is there going to be super over as mentioned in handbook page 46? 

2> The rule for fielding restrictions in handbook are as below:

The following Fielding Restrictions will be in force during all power play overs:

Only two fielders (other than the wicket-keeper and bowler) are allowed outside the inner circle.

Upto 3 fielders are allowed on the “Leg” side of the batsman when the ball is in play. 

Is this the case for this tournament?

Thanks.

Girish

Girish Hukkeri [i11 Cricket Club] on 3/4/2018 12:14:35 AM

Karan - that is one more week the teams not playing Pre-QF, QF, SF and F will be sitting out. Not to mention the # of reserved grounds we will end up wasting. 

I know it is painful for 6 teams but taking a break would make it painful for 110 others. Hope you understand

Website Admin [Bye - A] on 3/4/2018 7:04:56 AM

http://www.cricbay.com/viewarticle.asp?id=1151

Based on the above document link it seems the promotion abs relegation Is not being followed correctly l. Eg Singhams should be in Bronze but show up as silver. 

We also thought that bottom 8 abd top 8 are relegated or promoted but it seems this is also not being followed. eg dazzlers and WCW show up in Gold vs being In Silver ? 

Can someone explain this. 

Sid Paruthi [Strikers] on 3/4/2018 11:20:45 AM

can we make sure Handbook is updated with powerplays, fielding restrictions and declared runs etc. it used to be not in sync with the tournament and opens up discussions whether communications doc is updated or follow the handbook!!

Murali Bysani [Kingfishers] on 3/4/2018 11:51:20 AM

Why no quarter finals for Bronze division? With 4 groups it should be straight forward to have top 8 (2 from each group) go and play quarters. Am I missing something?

Harish Bhatt [Fremont Fireworks CC] on 3/4/2018 12:23:05 PM

I noticed the dates are showing year 2017 insted of 2018 in several places. Please correct them too..

Murali Bysani [Kingfishers] on 3/4/2018 1:39:40 PM

Promotion/Relegation

I am surprised that after all the hoopla in the various threads on FB, the changes suggested in this communication document don't resolve the issue. I am sure I must be wrong because this is probably an outcome of the Manager's meeting where there were 100+ people and must have been thoroughly thought over.

If points/DRR across all games including QF are to be considered, the strength of schedule should be the same. Let me try to explain why it isn't and how teams making the QF are penalized.

Let's say a team X is ranked A4 (4th in group A) with 36 points and 2.00 DRR, and team Y is ranked A5 (5th in group A) with 36 points and 1.00 DRR. A4 makes it to the QF. And until this point, they have had the same strength of schedule. Now in the quarterfinals weekend, team A4 plays B1 and team A5 plays the 27/28th ranked team. Let's say B1 and A5 win because they are the favorite. 

Team X stil has 36 points (with a lower DRR as a result of the loss), and Team Y now has 40 points (and a higher/lower DRR depending on victory margin).

With new changes, Team X is going to be ranked 1 for the ranking games. They will now play team ranked 28th while Team Y (will be 5th seed after accounting for the 4 QF losers) will play the 23/24th rank team. Assume both win since they are favored to, Team X will lag Team Y by 4 points and that will result in Team Y gets promoted while X will not.

Final Schedule for Team X: All group games, Topper of Group B, Team 28 across the division

Final Schedule for Team Y: All group games, Team 27/28 across the division, Team 23/24 across the division.

Both teams had a balanced schedule until group stage and then Team Y got the easier one (I would say "easier" for sure because it was not based on pre-season rankings but ranking after playing 13 games).

How is it fair to decide on promotion to next stage based on an un-balanced schedule at end of ranking games ? 

I would love to be proven wrong in my understanding of how this stuff works.

Nagesh Tagarathi [Googlys] on 3/4/2018 1:41:36 PM

Why no quarter finals for Bronze division? With 4 groups it should be straight forward to have top 8 (2 from each group) go and play quarters. Am I missing something?

Harish Bhatt [Fremont Fireworks CC] on 3/4/2018 1:46:23 PM

Sid, I understood you are following the final rankings announced. But, I think some teams didn't get relegated due to some withdrawals. However, I request volunteers to make it official which teams are withdrawn and the update to previously posted rankings.

Also, I see that there is no ranking for bottom 12 teams in Bronze division. But, do you think considering Champions trophy participation/rankings for deciding the zigzag order?

Murali Bysani [Kingfishers] on 3/4/2018 2:34:47 PM

i agree with Nagesh. This the basic flaw in the system. Last tournament even semi finalists were penalized for such antiquated rule. Once teams plays 15 weeks and show they are good enough to be in the top 8 then they should go forward.  any off the top 8 teams then can have a off day and loose in QF but that should not penalize them and stop them from reaching the next division.  i don’t think the reasoning behind this of saying that it would make ranking games irrelevant does not hold water.  Infact the ranking games should be at important for lowest ranked teams as they could avoid relegation if they win. 

at the end if a team reached QF then the efforts of 15 weeks should be rewarded otherwise i am Sure this rule Soon will frustrate teams  

Sid Paruthi [Strikers] on 3/4/2018 3:09:05 PM

Sid - the article you are following shows only teams who are promoted and relegated. when starting new season we put promoted teams in bottom 8 or higher division and relegated team in top 8 of lower divisions. We will put the initial ranking of the teams tonight, you will get a better idea. As per having Singhams in silver and any other team in different division than you expect is solely because of couple teams not playing in this season.

Naresh - please look at the ranking logistics one again. Those who lose the quarter finals will be placed in top 4 for ranking games. So as per your example, if A4 loses quarter Finals, then will be in 5th-8th for second ranking game and will play lower ranked team as their 15th match. Only after that we re-rank top 24 teams and pick 4 teams to get promoted.

Murali/Girish - handbook will be updated with powerplay Fielding restrictions. We will follow the previous rules were 1 fielder is allowed outside the circle during powerplays and no more than 5 fielders on the leg, with maximum 2 fielders behind the stumps.

Murali - we will correct the year.

Harish - having quarter finals for bronze will result in having every team in bronze play 16 matches. There will be lot of logistics issues. After giving lot of thought and ground availability in mind, bronze will directly play semis.

Ganesh Aithal [Jaathre Boys] on 3/4/2018 4:45:31 PM

Ganesh - I explained clearly how losing QF affects A4 from getting promoted compared to A5. I am not sure I can do better than that. We can discuss the clarifications offline if that would help instead of going back and forth here. 

I also have some possible solutions to be fair if the pre tournament rankings produces lopsided groups which is what I believe is the purpose of finding top 8 across groups. I don't want to illustrate them here unless CoLA/CoRA is looking for alternatives. 

Nagesh Tagarathi [Googlys] on 3/4/2018 6:41:59 PM

Hi Nagesh,

CoLA considers qualification for cup contention after RR separately from promotion and relegation. 

You have given one sample where both teams are haivng same points. Consider a case where A4 team has 28 points and B5 has 36 points with better DRR than A4. In this case, because top 4 teams go to QF and as per your reasoning team A4 should be promoted will be unfair to team B5. Here, A4 gets to play for championship as well as gets promoted. Hence, I have stated earlier that we consider cup contention and promotion separate. 

We have looked at the results from the past and discussed promotion/relegation to come up with what has been put into communications document. 

To make it comparatively fair for QF losing teams, we have put them in top 4 positions and all Semi finalist to be promote, compared to only finalist getting promoted in FO-2017.

Please feel free to open a ticket and provide your solution on ticket. We will take a look at it for Fall Open 2018. As for Regular Season 2018, promotion/relegation rules will be as described in communications document. 

Santosh Mundhe [Cupertino Champions] on 3/4/2018 7:51:37 PM

Santosh,

>> You have given one sample where both teams are haivng same points. Consider a case where A4 team has 28 points and B5 has 36 points with better DRR than A4. In this case, because top 4 teams go to QF and as per your reasoning team A4 should be promoted will be unfair to team B5. Here, A4 gets to play for championship as well as gets promoted. Hence, I have stated earlier that we consider cup contention and promotion separate. 

I never said that top-4 should be promoted. But your example also has its flaws. Teams were divided in zig-zag form before the season => they are equally balanced. If B5 has 36 points, it doesn't mean that they are better than A4. It only means that the bottom half of their group was very weak (and there will be more relegations from that group) and that shouldn't be the reason they should be favored to be promoted by being granted another free 4 points with the ranking game. 

Also consider that we are not having any amount of fairness to the teams being relegated - just having them duke it out against top teams in ranking games. They need to be judged amongst themselves by playing each other to stave off relegation. 

>> Please feel free to open a ticket and provide your solution on ticket. We will take a look at it for Fall Open 2018. As for Regular Season 2018, promotion/relegation rules will be as described in communications document. 

I will file a ticket in a couple of days with my ideas. 

 

Nagesh Tagarathi [Googlys] on 3/4/2018 9:41:40 PM

Santosh,

>> You have given one sample where both teams are haivng same points. Consider a case where A4 team has 28 points and B5 has 36 points with better DRR than A4. In this case, because top 4 teams go to QF and as per your reasoning team A4 should be promoted will be unfair to team B5. Here, A4 gets to play for championship as well as gets promoted. Hence, I have stated earlier that we consider cup contention and promotion separate. 

I never said that top-4 should be promoted. But your example also has its flaws. Teams were divided in zig-zag form before the season => they are equally balanced. If B5 has 36 points, it doesn't mean that they are better than A4. It only means that the bottom half of their group was very weak (and there will be more relegations from that group) and that shouldn't be the reason they should be favored to be promoted by being granted another free 4 points with the ranking game. 

Also consider that we are not having any amount of fairness to the teams being relegated - just having them duke it out against top teams in ranking games. They need to be judged amongst themselves by playing each other to stave off relegation. 

>> Please feel free to open a ticket and provide your solution on ticket. We will take a look at it for Fall Open 2018. As for Regular Season 2018, promotion/relegation rules will be as described in communications document. 

I will file a ticket in a couple of days with my ideas. 

 

Nagesh Tagarathi [Googlys] on 3/4/2018 9:48:21 PM

Thank you Ganesh for the updates. Seems the date is not yet updated in off weekends section.

One more correction to handbook about declared runs in Thornton BB 360 cage. From my last umpiring also, CORA confirmed that ball hitting the cage should be deemed as declared runs. But, handbook says other way. Please correct it too..

Looking forward for updated handbook..

Murali Bysani [Kingfishers] on 3/5/2018 1:11:03 AM

Answers to Handbook Related Questions -

  1. A new version of the Handbook v 11.1.0 is work in progress and will be published in the next couple of days
  2. The handbook will include the changes to reflect the power play fielding restriction of one fielder outside the circle and that upto 5 fielders are allowed on the leg-side
  3. Tied games will require one or more super-overs to be played as defined in the handbook (current and incoming)

@Murali - I will look into the Thorton BB cage issue and ensure that there is clarity before the new version of the handbook is published

Vasant

Vasant Kumar [Syndicate CC] on 3/5/2018 9:38:49 AM

Is the handbook updated with new rules?

Aditya Govindaraju [Seals United] on 3/9/2018 8:18:34 PM

It seems the tournament schedule is not updated after adding buffer weekends. Could you please update QF and SF dates accordingly?

Murali Bysani [Kingfishers] on 5/23/2018 3:38:24 PM